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New Airspace goes live tomorrow.
Wed, 02/06/2010 - 10:03 — Jason Rogers
Hi All,
Just a reminder that the new airspace rules go live tomorrow 3rd of June.
From now on all Registered, Certified and Military aerodromes have mandatory broadcast requirements similar to CTAF(R). As a result CTAF(R) is no longer in existance.
Maitland is the one most relevant to NHGC and will now require a VHF radio be carried and the operator licenced. Brokenback is only about 2 nm from the boundary.
For a full and accurate rundown on the changes
http://casaelearning.com.au/M02/index.htm
For a list of Registered and Certified aerodroms.
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/publications/aip.asp
Cheers Jason =:)
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Hi Jason, how is this not
Hi Jason,
how is this not exempted by CAO 95.8 3.1(b) ?
http://www.casa.gov.au/download/orders/cao95/9508.pdf
On a similar matter, the author of the Class E article in "Airwaves" a couple of months ago felt that we're exempted from the requirement to use VHF in class E : http://www.hgfa.asn.au/~news/hgfa_2010-01-31.htm#Class%20E
Thanks,
Dawson
I'd like to have it clarified
I'd like to have it clarified by someone who fully understands these things. (Not that I'm implying you don't, I mean a proper legal opinion) The HG exepemption is for (amoung other things) paragraphs 166 (1) (c), (d), (f) and (g).
I don't see an exemption for paragraph 166E which says no-one is allowed in the area unless they have a radio and a radio licence.
"166E Requirements for operating on or in the vicinity of certified, military, registered or designated non-controlled aerodromes
(1) The pilot in command of an aircraft commits an offence if:
(a) he or she operates the aircraft on the manoeuvring area of, or in the vicinity of, a non-controlled aerodrome that is:
(i) a certified aerodrome; or
(ii) a military aerodrome; or
(iii) a registered aerodrome; or
(iv) specified as a designated non-controlled aerodrome in a legislative instrument issued by CASA under regulation 166D; and
(b) he or she is not permitted to do so by subregulation (2), (3) or (4).
Penalty: 25 penalty units.
Note 1 For the definitions of certified aerodrome and registered aerodrome, see the CASR Dictionary.
Note 2 For the definition of military aerodrome, see subregulation 2 (1).
Aircraft with serviceable radio and pilot with radiotelephone qualification
(2) The pilot in command of an aircraft may operate the aircraft on the manoeuvring area of, or in the vicinity of, a non-controlled aerodrome mentioned in paragraph (1) (a) if:
(a) the aircraft is carrying a serviceable aircraft VHF radio; and
(b) the pilot holds a radiotelephone qualification"
Cheers Jason =:)
I've called Airservices
I've called Airservices Australia and spoken to Stuart Jones. I gather that he was involved in drafting the wording of the new regulations. He didn't know... So it's far from cut and dried either way. He said his initial reading of it is that we're not exempt, but will check for us.
He's promised to call me back some time in the next couple of days. I'll post when I know something definate.
Cheers Jason =:)
OK, I've checked it with
OK, I've checked it with Craig.
Fact is, we do NOT have an exemption. Inside the radius, we need VHF.
Legally it isn't sufficient for a duty pilot to carry VHF, as we have done in the past. Every pilot will need one.
I wouldn't get too wound up about it.
Billo
Billo
Blokes Pass this to Craig
Blokes
Pass this to Craig Worth so that we (the HGFA) have a unified response to the issue.
Billo
Well Stuart has got back to
Well Stuart has got back to me, but it appears that things have moved on since I logged in here last.
As Billo says, yes, we all need to carry VHF if within 10mn of a certified, registered or military aerodrome. I just noticed that includes Dixon park and points north.
It doesn't appear to be all that difficult to get a licence. The HGFA issues them if an SSO who holds one will sign you off.
I don't know about mounting a unified response. This was opened for comment *five* years ago. It seems a bit pointless to mount any kind of response at 3pm the day before it comes into effect.
Perhaps a club day where we all get trained on radio and all get the operator's licence combined with a group purchase of handheld radios would be a better response.
Cheers Jason =:)
So far as any Newcastle HG
So far as any Newcastle HG sites are concerned, ignore it would be the best response.
There is no way HG pilots on a ridge are going to be making any meaningful VHF calls.
BTW, I was on the Board then, and in all the part 103 stuff we dealt with at that time, this airspace stuff never came up. It would have been brought to our attention by our ASAC rep, and it never was.
I think we have been caught flat footed on it.
Billo